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True, Vince can sing from time to time. But then again, what does that matter? You will find just as many on this site who will praise the "skills" of Johnny Thunders. Plus, I would say that Bob Dylan has done more for music than ANY band we discuss here, and that man can't sing worth a damn. So what in all reality does being able to sing have to do with anything?
No clue, Carl. But, it seems like everytime Motley is discussed someone always throws in some type of insult- ie: Vince's voice, weight, drinking, etc. Who cares, it's all preference.
Being able to sing means quite a lot to, eh, people
who can sing; people who've trained; people who
appreciate range, intonation, timber, etc. Sing-
ing is an artform, an art to train and aspire to.
I'm not the best singer in the world, but if I
could afford it, I'd pay for professional les-
sons - not because I think being trained auto-
matically enables one to be more listenable
(most rock bands benefit from the untrained
characteristics and flaws of their 2-packs-a-
day singers), but simple because I want to stretch
myself and do whatever I can do to its ulitmate
level.
If Joe Bloggs can't run 2 meters without coughing
his lungs out, should we expect Olympic runners
to take him seriously?
D.
<font color="#FF0000" size="1">[ March 21, 2005 03:44 PM: Message edited by: Deviant D ]</font>
I thought NIN only had 1 full album and 200 remixed albums of that same album?...Am I right?....hahaha!
<font color="#FF0000" size="1">[ March 21, 2005 03:48 PM: Message edited by: A Katt Named Raggz ]</font>
I agree...if ya like the band then listen to it...if ya don't like it don't listen to it.
I don't like KISS...and I respect all the KISS fans who waste their money on such crap....SEE????...I respect KISS fans...if that's what they like then so be it...(psst...ya wasted ya money)....LMFAO!!!
Ok Ok...let me be serious if I can...haha.
I don't like KISS...but those that do then sure go right ahead...but if ya say ya bought their bowling ball...then that's just asking for a smartass remark...OH geez...well I tried to be serious...oh well.
No, you're wrong, and you know it, you contention-
creating Texan monster. [img]smile.gif[/img]
'The Downward Spiral' is fanatastic. We have to love
it if only for Trent's anti-hip-hop, anti-gangstar,
anti-bling-bling, anti-cultural 'Big Man With A
Gun' track.
D.
LOL!!!
I can't sing... but I know what I like and what I don't. There are many voices that make me cringe and Vince's voice in the past - so many I don't remember exactly years - has made me cringe. Maybe not so much his voice as his slurring I think. And it's funny you mention Bob Dylan Carl. Cuz Bob Dylan was GREAT! But you're right he can't sing. I can't stand listening to him. But he was an awesome songwriter. I actually like Motley Crue - or rather I like their sound from before. That's my choice. I also can choose not to spend my money on them - or I can choose to spend a ton of money on them. It's not for me to say "YOU'RE STUPID THAT BAND SUCKS!!" Because believe me, I enjoy MANY bands that the majority of the people think suck. (And I won't be mentioning any names either.)
As for not liking Vince because of his weight or drinking or what have you - that's not it for me. I could care less if he weighed 500 lbs and couldn't finish a set without passing out (reminiscing about seeing the mentors).
And so what, I bought that bowling ball... it's my damn money!!!! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
<font size="4" face="Arial">Don't get me wrong, most of my Motley comments are all done with a tongue planted firmly in cheek and a "wink wink, nudge nudge" to them all. I don't like Crue, and we all know it, and that is more or less why I will have my comments. Kind of the whole "HEY, ya wanna know what I think???" and everybody walks away and I keep talking. Never take much of what I say about them or Roxx Gang too seriously, as my disliking of them is biased in that, well, I don't like them. If I say something of them sucks, it is much like Tuff up there saying he loves something new they do. We are both biased, but on opposite sides. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by UntiL You See:
No clue, Carl. But, it seems like everytime Motley is discussed someone always throws in some type of insult- ie: Vince's voice, weight, drinking, etc. Who cares, it's all preference.
Okay let me try this again.
Example:
I like Roxx Gang and Carl doesn't.
Am I gonna waste my time trying to prove to Carl how awesome they are?...NO I think not, I wouldn't.
Carl doesn't like them for his reasons and I like them for my reason, so why should I bicker and moan about him not liking them? huh huh huh?
LMFAO@sinn with the KISS bowling ball.
Well, this is a forum to discuss music, so if everybody had the same opinion it would be pretty pointless.
LOL @ NIN having 100 Remix albums... thats why Trent is a genius, with the "Halo" things on each CD he makes... so every hardcore fan buys all the releases no matter how pointless they are.
LOL@Raiven.
Vince gets attacked for his weight and such because he is an asshole, or has been one for years, so you attack the obvious. It's hard to attack him for the voice, because as has been pointed out, he has made millions with it. But he didn't make millions being over-weight. He made that while he was still attractive. Now his outside has become as ugly as his inside, so it is all fodder for attacks. It's an obvious attack point, just like with Jani. Jani was also an ass. There might be some snide comments made about Carnie Wilson in the past when she was overweight, but for the most part she was never attacked by her own fans, due to her being so dang nice to them all. Once Vince turned on the people that gave him his millions, down he went.
Let me jump in before someone says:
I met Vince and he was f'in cool man!!!
Not everyone gets along. Not everyone likes everyone else.
But stories of Vince being an ass are NOT hard to find at all, and it usually has happened in a very public way. In fact, I would bet it is easier to find a story of an asshole Vince than it is to find one of him being decent to people.
double post...ignore please... [img]redface.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000" size="1">[ March 21, 2005 04:57 PM: Message edited by: Carl I. ]</font>
<font size="4" face="Arial">sweet!Quote:
Originally posted by Deviant D:
Avril Lavigne: I don't like her, but there
are plenty of moody 14-year-olds (-and Bill, of
course!-) who can relate to her, eh, output.
D.
Bill's a pedophile???? How come I didn't know that?
<font size="4" face="Arial">that just proves that you never took the time to read my profile ... now i'm hurt.Quote:
Originally posted by sinnmin:
Bill's a pedophile???? How come I didn't know that?
Now why would I read your profile???
I know that's all full of lies to make you look like something special.
lies?! that's a lie!
i really am the ruler of the Ivory Coast, i really do sleep in a bed made of solid gold and i really did give randy rhoads guitar lessons when i was 6 years old.
pfft...
Dear Lavigne.... anybody obsessed with her is
well dodgy, of course. - MTV-friendly crap con-
trived for self-perpetuating purposes. Death
to all those which condone it. [img]smile.gif[/img]
D
Okay, I'm gonna sound off.
Bryan Adams and Leppard IMO are a good match, both are catchy hook laden safe rock. I saw Leppard on the Pyromania tour years ago and they put on a good show. I saw Bryan Adams about 3-4 years ago on his stripped down tour when he was playing bass. It was an excellent show, solid musicianship. I think the small baseball field thing is actually kind of a cool idea. Both Adams and Leppard still sell quite well on the live front. My GF saw them a year ago in Vancouver and they had 9-10K people, hardly washed up. Adams although his popularity in North America has petered off somewhat, he's still a good draw and is still huge in Europe, particularily in your neck of the woods D. where he now resides.
I believe people are flocking to Crue for nostalgia sake, and the fact that many people still like them. I mean they did sell 40 million + albums people. I also think people are really tired of all the rap crap, fluff pop, tortured artisted metal, and EMO SCREAMO pop punk they have been subjected to over the last few years. People just want to see a really good ass kicking rock show. That's what Green Day's show was, I can't tell you how many people I know that went to that show and said how great it was.
You can say something sucks, but it may be brilliant to someone else. I still haven't figured out what the big deal is with Heart Throb Mob??....maybe it's the portastudio production I can't get used to.
Oh and if this is what it means to be washed up....sign me up immediately!!
Bryan Adams and Def Leppard, combined, have sold more than 100,000,000 albums worldwide. Each made their album debut in 1980 -- and 25 years later they are still hitting homeruns as each releases a new album in 2005.
Def Leppard's place in music history? Only five rock groups can claim two original albums selling 10,000,000+ copies each in the U.S.: The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Van Halen and Def Leppard. The British band's blockbuster "PYROMANIA" hit #2 and 10 times platinum; "HYSTERIA" soared even higher -- #1 and 13 times platinum -- led by the #1 single "LOVE BITES". The retrospective "VAULT" has sold more than 7,000,000 copies worldwide. Now "ROCK OF AGES: THE DEFINITIVE COLLECTION" (Mercury/UMe), to be released May 17, 2005, marks the band's biggest-ever "best of" album and the first two-CD set in the group's phenomenal career, featuring the newly recorded single, "NO MATTER WHAT" (originally recorded by Badfinger).
Bryan Adams is one of the world's most highly acclaimed musicians whose career has spanned more than three decades. This spring will see the release of Adams' 14th CD, "ROOM SERVICE", which debuted at No. 1 on the European Top 100 Album Chart! Adams' meteoric rise on the charts began when his album, "CUTS LIKE A KNIFE" landed in the Top 10. This was soon followed by the #1 charted album "RECKLESS". With record sales in excess of 60 million worldwide, Adams' career has taken him around the world countless times as rock fans fill arenas and festivals where ever he appears. Constantly in demand, the celebrated rocker is on the road over 150 days a year playing rock n' roll favorites ("SUMMER OF 69", "RUN TO YOU", "18 'TIL I DIE", "SOMEBODY") to sold out audiences on six continents. Holder of the record for the longest running #1 hit in the history of the British charts (16 weeks), Adams' has had 4 #1 singles as well as racked up an impressive array of Oscar and Golden Globe nominations, a Grammy Award, American Music Awards, Juno Awards (Grammy equivalent in Canada) and ASCAP Film and Television Music Awards. An accomplished photographer, Adams' current body of work will soon be seen in his new book, "CALVIN KLEIN - AMERICAN WOMEN", scheduled to debut this spring.